Ana Howe 0:05

Welcome to Vitality by Design, the podcast where we explore what it really means to live longer and better.

Carey Howe 0:13

We're your hosts, Anna and Carey, coming to you from Costa Rica, owned to one of the world's best. Longevity is a trend, it's a way of life.

Ana Howe 0:25

Each week we dive into the science, strategies, and mindset behind optimal health and intentional living, blending modern longevity research with the rhythm, values, and wisdom of life well lived. Because longevity isn't just about adding years to your life. It's about adding life to your years. Let's dive in.

Carey Howe 0:51

Welcome to Vitality by Design. This is episode eight with my good buddy Scott Rickett. Today we're gonna talk about how you build a meaningful life with wellness things and some of the interesting things that Scott's doing. He's gonna get into that. He's built a fantastic non-alcoholic wine brand, which is gaining popularity, especially with some selects, and he'll kind of do some name golfing on that as we get further. But he's also got some really cool other things doing, really great things with peptides, patches, and so forth, even more, and he'll explain even more about that. And then also on a uh on just a personal level, like he's really into uh pickleball, and he'll explain that and his brand of pickleball. But I wanted to kind of get you know you to know a little bit about him and him to introduce himself. So here we go, Scott. How are you doing, brother?

Scott Rickett 1:38

Good, Carrie, man. Great to talk to you, man. Happy to uh to see that beautiful background in in your in your picture frame there. Looks like a pretty day today in Costa Rica.

Carey Howe 1:48

Yeah, it's it's all it's always a good day at some point in the day here in Costa Rica. You know, if you don't like the weather, wait five minutes. That's what they say, man. That's better. Yeah, fantastic. And likewise, I'm sure for you in Huntington, I hear it's uh nice and hot, roasting your guys out the wheel.

Scott Rickett 2:04

We're loving the warm summer, our our El Niño's bringing some warm water and great fish and uh fun waves. So it's been great. Great.

Carey Howe 2:12

Little surfing, little fishing, little pickleball, huh?

Scott Rickett 2:15

There you go. There you go. You gotta do whatever it is to keep keep you know keep yourself sane and on top of all the the chaos we put ourselves through every day. So, you know, I'm stoked to be on the podcast, and and you know, the more time that you and I get to hang out and talk, we realize how much of just kindred souls we are. There's, you know, there's so many just kind of really unique things that are are in both of our pasts, and and I I have to bring it all back to the music. You know, it's kind of the for me, the music was the core that that everything my life has been based around, you know.

Carey Howe 2:50

We just to give people a background, Scott and I go way back. We've been friends most of our lives, and we were in bands together during the 80s, and this was a real cool time, and and you know, fairly accomplished musicians, both of us, and we had some great times and good success with it too. And this is kind of the parallel that we've had like through our lives. I see him doing these wellness things, and I've kind of gotten into the wellness space. And and anyways, that's kind of what brought us together on this podcast because I wanted to look at everything you're building. Explain to me, let's start with with the wine. Like this is super cool, and I know how you relate how you do this to music. So let's hear a little bit about that and and the drive and the entrepreneurship and how you're turning passion into into success, you know, monetary success. And that's a real cool thing, and people would love to hear about it. So let's hear it.

Scott Rickett 3:43

Yeah, I I've been uh I I don't know, I you know, I've been been bit by that music bug since I was born. And so it's driven me from internal to do everything I do, and I base a lot of my other businesses and brands and everything else around that background. But I find that there was just voids, big voids. And being in the music industry, as you know, you're around big people with big personalities. They got these huge personalities, and a lot of times alcohol is just not really a good mix with it. And I saw some of the celebrities and people that I'd work with that just couldn't drink, and were out promoting and and doing events on a nightly basis where they're paying for everything, and these people are, you know, drinking on their dime, and they're there drinking, you know, Martinelli's sparkling apple juice, and and uh at the time O'Dul's beer was about it. And so there was this huge void. There was no option for someone that had issues with alcohol to have something that was really delicious, really refreshing that could keep them on that sobriety program. And that was one of those aha moments for me to say, man, there's gotta be something better. Somebody's gotta have something better. And I think touring in Europe, I saw people that were northern. I remember northern Germany was one that stood out lunchtime. People were having like really expensive 80 euro at this time, this is you know, 15 years ago, 12 years ago, whatever, uh, 80 euro zero alcohol wines. And I'm like, someone's gonna pay 80 euros for a zero alcohol wine. And you know, my friends in Germany are explaining it to me. They really enjoyed the experience. They want to have that glass of wine with the meal, the food, and everything else, but they don't want the alcohol. They don't want to be, you know, slowed down for the rest of their day. And that's what got me started on this whole program. And I originally started with beer and then uh graduated into the to the wine world, being here in California. We're blessed. We're probably one of the most, you know, robust wine communities on the planet. You know, Napa, Napa, Sonoma is unbelievable. Right here in our own little backyard, Temecula has really, really come up a long way. So the world was here to learn everything I could about wine and try creating a better opportunity and a better option for people. So originally we started in California making de-alkalized wine and infusing it with cannabis for the cannabis industry. Only sold to cannabis dispensaries in the legal industry here in California. Very small market, difficult. Everything you do in beverage size matters. The amount of product you do, the amount of runs you do, just because, like anything, well, when you're using large machinery like that, the time it takes to set it up and clean it and everything else afterwards, if you're not running a bunch of product through it, it's costing you a ton of money. But we started with small craft batches, then I expanded to what we call Bella Petite Beverages, which was the same technologies of the zero alcohol wine and the same technologies that we developed for infusion, and we did it with hemp-based CBD. Not Delta 9 from hemp, actual real hemp-based C BD, more as a something that would relax and help people more in recovery. Bella, then we found that we still had hurdles because since the FDA has not classified CBD in their way for human and pet consumption, they just left it off to the states. The farm bill allowed hemp products to be made in the in the United States, but they really didn't put a lot of regulations in place. So it's state to state. With that, it makes it with even our CBD products. We can't advertise on Google, we can't, you know, and a meta or any of that other stuff. So really handcuffed us there. So we left this year in 2026, we launched Bella Zero Zero, which is just our zero alcohol wine formulas with no CBD and no cannabis. We kind of put that towards the restaurants. That was where we saw a lot of the restaurants doing what they call mocktails now. Um, you know, the same thing as a cocktail without the alcohol in it.

Carey Howe 7:37

Yeah, so explain to us, you know, because people don't know this, and I know that you and I have talked about this, and I know that you have some really, you know, really cool, unique sourcing things that you do being in the area you do. You also had some issues come up because, you know, your competition with wine companies that you know want alcohol in their wine. And this isn't just something you put together and used a bunch of vendors from the outside. You know, this is a chemist background. You know, you guys go in the lab and do all these things. I've seen you post for years about all you know, all the work that you put into this, not only the sourcing, but the tasting. And and this just isn't your ordinary wine. This is really good wine, but it's just not alcoholic and some of the hurdles that you had to get over it.

Scott Rickett 8:20

Yeah, it's been a it's been a mission. You know, no one has really kind of gone to this level and and tried to produce products like this. So we were doing a lot of stuff blindly and trying to figure it out. And also we we definitely ran into a lot of opposition in the traditional alcohol market. There is oh, there's some big boys that play in that market, and they they have had a real real run and they don't like competition of any type. And so there is a new world out there. People are finally starting to wake up a little bit to understand the destructiveness of alcohol beyond you know the the basics, but but you know, alcohol is pretty pretty hard on our body. It's an industrial solvent, you know, ethanol is an industrial solvent. So finding ways to remove that, first of all, from our wines and not ruin the wine was our first real challenge that we had to deal with. And there's a process that's done in Napa, and there's only seven machines on the whole planet that can do this. But most wines that you buy in a production facilities mass-produce, let's say, like a grocery store wine that you go buy at $35 off the shelf at Ralph's or Albertson's or something like that. That is under 15% alcohol because everything over 15% alcohol in the United States is then taxed as liquor, much higher tax than beer and wine. So they use a method with wine that you can't do. Any other spirits, if you want to remove alcohol, you can use heat. Ethanol has a certain temperature that it will evaporate. With wine, though, if anyone's ever cooked, you know, you can't add heat to wine. It changes its molecular structure, it coagulates. So you have to be very delicate with the wine, and we use a process uh where we spin it, much like you separate plasma from blood. It's using fluting. So all yeah, all molecular matter has has you know its definition, and you're able to flute it out. But the alcohol molecule loves the water molecule, so they like to bind together. So we lose a lot of our product in the in the process, and uh we don't rehydrate 100%. I think a lot of the zero alcohol wines that are on the market today are made from you know what's left over type of stuff. And they take a bunch of different wines and they mix them together, and then they you know they remove the alcohol out, and it's a really kind of an afterthought. And unfortunately, you know, it people have then that perception that zero alcohol wine is is cheaper than an alcohol wine. But honestly, there's a lot more steps, it's a lot more expensive to make it, you know. I guess moved out here in in the in Napa, the the big companies move wine in tanker trucks, much like a oil tanker. They're a few-grade glyco wine, 5,460 gallons. Exactly. You can't have an ounce less than that in there. Any sloshing around, any um oxygen that that gets in the wine and transportation like that would ruin it. So they're very, very particular in how it's treated in transportation. And anything less than that truckload for the bigger wine couples is considered remnants. So I've been able to build some really great relationships with some of the best wineries in California and buy their remnants and buy them when they are fresh, when they are just being produced. And now having these great relationships, I I get I get forecasting. I know what you know some of my wineries will have in February this year. I know, you know, what's gonna be available in next next July. So having forecasting and now having these wineries come to me and go, hey, we think we're gonna have you know five or six thousand extra gallons that we, you know, not sure you know what we're gonna do with. And so now I've been able to really secure and buy really amazing batches of wine. I have special pressurized vehicles that I are vessels that I'm able to transport it and move it. We then de-alkalize it, we then formulate it with our formulas, and then we either bring it to a facility for the cannabis or CBD infusion and then bottling, or just to a facility for bottling. So there's a number of more steps in there involved in making it. And the quality of the grapes and the quality of the wine really is the whole shtick. Wine is like beef. Go buy a dollar ninety nine Big Mac or a Bone and Filet at Mastro's, it's gonna be a completely different.

Carey Howe 12:44

Big difference, right?

Scott Rickett 12:44

Big experience. So wine's no different. Go buy a $35 bottle of cheap, mass-produced wine at the grocery store, or buy a $500 bottle of Opus One up in in Napa, or a $5,000 bottle of a great Bordeaux in France. It's a completely different experience, and it's all about the proof is kind of in the in the testimonials.

Carey Howe 13:08

Why don't you talk a little bit about some of the clients you have? I know what's great that you're you're located in Southern California, close to Hollywood, and and you have a lot of great people buying your wine, and testimonials go a long way, and that says a lot about the quality of your wine and the flavor and you know what people are saying about it.

Scott Rickett 13:26

And you know, we've been lucky. I I created this for people in the entertainment industry that just didn't have real options and had issues with alcohol. It was great to me. And every time I get frustrated and run up against the wall and have issues and problems, which you always do in any small business, you know, it'll be one email back from a veteran that tells me, man, I've struggled with alcohol issues all my life. This is the first birthday I was able to celebrate with my friends with your champagne and feel like I was part of the whole thing and not have to, you know, jeopardize my sobriety. And to me, getting an email from someone like that that tells me I'm helping better their life in one little way, you know, I'm giving them another day where they're, you know, had you know issues with suicidal thoughts and other stuff with alcohol, you know, there's a lot of people that really, really struggle. Uh the other side is people that come to us with health issues that, you know, diabetes and other really dehabilitating diseases that alcohol, you can't alcohol is really is is hard and destructive on the body. And so anyone that's going through health issues, anyone who's an athlete who's trying to, you know, better themselves, staying away from it, abstaining from it completely is the only option. And there really isn't a lot of alternatives. So we we get these emails and people come to us and find us, it's great. But I've been lucky enough to get it into some different celebrities' hands. And you know, some of them have been really, really vocal and pushing it out to their friends. One of them's been Drew Barrymore. She's been an amazing, amazing advocate for our brand. She doesn't drink, she's had her public issues of you know drugs and alcohol and other stuff. She won't say she's sober, but she doesn't touch alcohol in any way anymore. And uh the CBD wines and champagnes, she's turned me on to so many other Hollywood celebrities that you're you know, over the years have continued to order and and and and buy from us. She brought a case of our champagne to uh the Grammy Awards and was giving them out to all the people that didn't drink uh alcohol at the Grammy Awards this year. They won't the Grammy's on because they've got sponsorship from Moe or Moet, whatever. So, but uh you know, it continues to grow. Robert Downey Jr. orders from us, and Brad Pitt was ordering from us. I hear he's drinking again, but I don't know. But you know, it's just meat when you get these orders, and the girls, you know, will all be all like, Oh my god, we got an order from Jamie Lee Curtis, and it's like, you know, and so it's like they get so excited, and it is cool, but I have to say I get more It is exciting. I don't think that it's when someone tells me how much it's helped them. When they tell me, hey, my grandma has been able to drink for 20 years, and we had you know a dinner with everybody, and we were able to drink this champagne and she loved it, and you know, those little things to me are like, hey, this is why we're doing it. But it's still an uphill battle. I do events all the time. I was at an event for a big sports thing here in Huntington Beach, Beach City Sports. They do all like the you know, adult softball and beach football and volleyball and thousands and thousands of members. They did a big event at the Newland House and they had open bar, but we also had you know all of our zero alcohol options. And you know, you see people, no matter how much they know, they still drink, you know, they're still Yeah.

Carey Howe 16:36

I used to live on 18th Street. I s I used to see that that group grow and grow and grow, and they were like pretty much taking over the whole of Northside at some point. Like they've got football fields, soccer fields, all this stuff going on.

Scott Rickett 16:48

Yeah, and Brooke are awesome. They've been old friends of mine. Brooke has been a big, big component of the zero alcohol and stuff, and I support that. They've got thousands of members that are athletes, you know, and and so it those are the places that we like to go. I did the you know, the International Surf Museum with my buddy PT, you know, PT here in Huntington. He's the first world champion surfer, and uh, this is the 50th anniversary of the world championing, uh the world surfing organization uh, you know, coming. We had the U.S. Open here and the opening of the new surf museum. We did a big thing again with the zero alcohol, and there's a crowd for it, there's a people for it, but there's still a lot of people that prefer drinking. And I think as hopefully more and more people become educated and understand the destructiveness of alcohol, and there's more options than maybe people will pick. The problem is there's a lot of people that understand it right now, but they don't have any other options. So what do you do? You end up, ah, I'm gonna have a beer, you know, or I'm gonna have a wine. And so, you know, uh in time I think we will look and people will realize that it's really no different than cigarettes. If you want to smoke cigarettes and you know, put yourself in that kind of harm's way, that's your choice. But you know it's not good for you. It's not one of those, oh, it's not gonna happen to me. Yeah. Yeah. Everyone's like, no, things are now gonna have issues with my liver. Well, guess what?

Carey Howe 18:09

But the numbers say that like people are quitting alcohol, like hand over fist. Like never before have they seen this kind of decline in numbers. And I attribute that a lot to the wellness and the you know, the new age of people wanting, you know, understanding their own wellness without a doctor, you know, in a white coat telling them what I think that yeah, I think that you and I came from a generation where we were freaking fooled.

Scott Rickett 18:33

I mean, I think we've been bamboozled by not only our government, but by the FDA, by everyone that we thought was out to look out for us. Yeah. Our food supply has been, you know, just unbelievably destroyed. And having the ability that you can go down the street and buy a bottle of vodka and drink yourself to death tonight, and you know, tell the guy at the counter, hey, I'm gonna drink this and die tonight, and they'd be, oh, well, have a nice night, sir. You know, I mean that it's like they don't really care. It's all about money and profit. Our food has been so destroyed, and and unfortunately, our bodies are constantly fighting against all the environmental issues we have. And if you want to add more to that, then you know go ahead. Basically, alcohol is ethanol. Ethanol is an industrial solvent. You look at the molecular chain of it, it has one carbon molecule. You don't change anything in that whole molecular chain and add a second carbon molecule to it, it's now rubbing alcohol. If you add a third carbon molecule to it, don't do anything else to that chain, it's now paint thinner. So, our liver, when as soon as alcohol touches your tongue, it knows no different if it's paint thinner or if it's ethanol from a beer or a glass of wine. And it puts your body into a whole different process. Basically, it's the fight or flight. It shuts down your liver from processing any fats, any sugars, anything else. It shuts down your immune system from being able to touch anything. For 72 hours, one drop of alcohol will mess your whole body up. It messes your internal gut lining up, which connects to your vagan nerve, which controls your mood. It messes your sleep up. You won't get decent sleep. It just does so many different things to our body that people really don't realize. And so you stop drinking for a good amount of time and realize how much better your body feels, how much quicker you recover, how much sharper you are. You know, it's it's definitely uh it's definitely hilarious that people think it's it's relaxing and all this other stuff. It is not.

Carey Howe 20:30

But, you know, in reality, you know, nobody ever said, hey, my life went to shit after I quit drinking. You know, it's completely the opposite, right? Once you stop, you kind of it kind of works on itself, you know. It's and once you get clearer thoughts, better digestion, all these things that start happening to you when you stop drinking alcohol, better metabolic health, better gut health, all these things, right? I think it's uh and people are realizing that now.

Scott Rickett 20:54

I think it's slowly coming. There's definitely a trend. We see it every year. The sober October and the dry January become bigger and bigger for us. We see more people trying, we see more places that are kind of open to checking it out. But I still, like I said, I do events, people come up, and as soon as I tell them it's not alcohol, they're like, why the hell would I drink that? You know, what else do so when I do when I take all the alcohol out of my wine, I make hand sanitizer. So I usually keep the hand sanitizer there at the events that we're doing. And you know, if people want to just either to sanitize any of the girls' hands that are pouring stuff or anything else, but I tell people that I said, Well, I'll tell you what, when I take the alcohol out of the wine, I make hand sanitizer. I can take this hand sanitizer and put it back in the wine for you if you want alcohol. And they're all like, oh you know, when you put it into sign of kind of this different, different terms, people look at it a little different. But yeah, the health and wellness is growing. Our age, like I said, I think we were bamboozled. I think we were lied to. You know, we ate the the poison pill. I didn't know that RJ Reynolds and all these other major tobacco companies bought Libisco, bought Post, bought all these companies that I was. Sitting there reading those cereal boxes and eating that freaking genetically modified horrible sugar freaking crap in the morning as a child. Yeah. Oh, I was poisoning myself and destroying my freaking liver and doing things to my body with this food, you know. So I think as we've gotten older and became more educated, and then and l you like me, um, you know, we've been on a real health program. And the last time I think we we hung out was fighting at the uh UFC gym over here, you know? Yeah. So to stay and and like you, you know, you're out there you surfing in in in Costa Rica, and to stay active as you get older and get to our age, especially if you did have that wild rock and roll life that we have, they're still lucky enough to be one of the ones here, you know. Hey, how the hell is, you know, how the hell is Keith Richards still going, you know?

Carey Howe 22:49

And and that's a whole nother podcast right there.

Scott Rickett 22:52

You know, I mean so there's certain people that have kept going, but you know, you and I both know we've lost a lot of our friends, man. A lot of the people that that uh that that we're we're uh you know that we were close to that were part of our lives, they're gone now. And and uh it was lifestyle, you know, some of it was it was other issues and and and stuff, but I think as now we've gotten to this point where we're older, we know more, health and wellness becomes probably your priority, man. You know, it sucks when you get hurt and you're down and you've got to work your way back up. And I don't care what the injury is, you know. I've had knee injuries and other stuff, you know, it it's tougher when you're old and it's not fun to be sick. You know, you have people, you see people that are just always sick and stuff like that. And so taking care of your health and really learning to look at what other options are available out there becomes something I think is really important to us. And that leap for us, you know, we're entrepreneurs. If anyone's been in a band, anyone that's taken that leap to walk away from normal life to pursue a dream like that, you have a different mindset. You you you are an entrepreneur in some way because that's not there's no guarantees. You know that with the band. I I don't, you know, I can put 10 years into working on my craft daily. I can be the one of the best at what I do, and I can get out there and there's still no guarantee that I'm gonna eat next week, that I'm gonna have a gift, we're gonna be traveling, or someone's gonna buy one of my songs or any of that stuff. So, you know, if you're a a lawyer or a doctor and you spend those 10 years getting your degrees and building a practice and everything else, you pretty much know next year you're still gonna be getting paid in the year after that. So there's a certain level of entrepreneur spirit, I think, in any true musician. Anyone that walks away. 100%. Anyone that walks away from the comfort of normal life to go pursue their dream like that and takes a freaking leap of faith with nothing behind them, no net, nothing else. And you know, entertainment's just like the sports. It's just like you know, these other very, very difficult, very only a very small percentage of people will ever become successful in it. And so you know, I think that same spirit of that entrepreneur and just going for it and being able to live uncomfortably, if that's possibly a a worry, you know. Yeah, you've got to be able to be be comfortable being uncomfortable to uh to be an entrepreneur.

Carey Howe 25:26

Yeah, 100%. That's a so you know, I think most people who are sort of on pretend entrepreneurs know that, right? And uh speaking of going wild at it, now you have the peptides and the patches, and there's a whole sort of process to that that's booming for you as well. And how did that sort of fit in when you were doing the line?

Scott Rickett 25:46

It's been an ongoing uh thing. So I learned to I tell you, I call it the Elon Musk uh philosophy. I don't have a uh PhD. I don't, I'm not a physicist or anything, but what I've done is found some of the smartest people I possibly could around me and and incorporated them into my world to become friends and work with them. So the technology that we had to develop to get oil and water to mix, to be able to make our emulsions for both the cannabis wines and champagnes and for the CBD wines and champagnes, you have to play within quantum science. And it's a very difficult thing. Oil and water will never mix. Most technology that's been used out there is what's called liposoma technology. You're adding more oil to oil and water to try to get them to mix. Think of salad dressing, shake it up, it's great for two minutes, and then it all separates the oil and water. So most cannabis and other hemp-based drinks out there are in this format. Use what's called surfactants, they're very bitter, very cloudy. Wine being a natural, really unique element with tannins and stuff like that, did not do well. So we had to develop and create our own technology. And I just searched around for the smartest people I could find. And I found an amazing pharmaceutical facility in Irvine, California with a team that had been doing what's called injectable emulsion. So you have ingestibles that you drink, injectables that go into the arms. So injectable emulsions are particle size, particle size, particle size. Anything that's wrong in that, you'll kill somebody. Whole different technology. We're using what's called micelation, the attaching to the hydrogen molecule. I found a way basically to get our wine to work with the most advanced pharmaceutical team of particle physicists and unbelievable brains. And so we doing that, that technology, the lab I was working in, they were pharmaceutical facilities that had been doing generic drugs for 35 years. That market had been just destroyed over the last 15 years by China and India. And until recently, when they started pushing to get you know American-made drugs and stuff into this last administration before that, they didn't give a crap. And these companies over there were just destroying it. So this amazing facility with that's in Irvine with not only clean rooms and ultra clean rooms, and you've got to be in a spacesuit, you know, robotics, triple backups of power and ventilations and all that stuff, place is an amazing place. You know, they were having a hard time keeping the lights on. So the owner, a brilliant guy, said I'm going to start looking at other options. And that's how I even got my foot in the door to start making the emulsion. And then I brought another customer in that was interested in doing peptides. And I didn't know a lot about peptides, but a lot of the people here in Huntington Beach that were into the MMA world had been in and working with them for quite a while. And so I had a friend of mine who's a fighter I'd worked with that that had been in them with them really for a long time, was pretty, pretty smart about it all. And he brought a team of people that had a well-funded program. And so we started doing peptide uh tablets originally for them. Now I've heard past digestive destroys a lot of products, but there are certain peptides that work really well. And so those people out there don't know what peptides are. They're just small chain amino acids that our body breaks down and makes out of food. Our body naturally makes them, probably the most common peptide out there is insulin. Insulin's been around for a hundred years. People that can't break down sugar, they can shoot insulin in the stomach. It naturally works with your own body. Insulin breaks it down. The big craze these days now are the GLP1s. Those are, again, are peptides that are our advanced weight loss. GLP1s are really were designed for morbidly obese people. They're not really meant for a normal person that just needs to lose a little weight. But there's 220 some thousand peptides that we've been able to identify. So we started making tablets there. This company was doing very well with it. I mean, extreme numbers that they're doing out of there. So it got my attention for sure. And I started going, you know, these peptides are amazing. I started doing some stuff with the knee surgery I had, and but I don't like needles. Just not into being have to eject myself. And some of these peptides you have to do on different levels and times and everything. So you can't put them all together in one. You have to do it over and over. So we had a little bit of an aha moment in the lab where I was able to use the same technology we developed to make our emulsions for the oil and water mixtures to take some of these peptides that were too big and put them into a format that they could actually penetrate the dermis and the epidermis. We have a dermis and epidermis level of 500 Dalton. So it's a molecular size and weight that basically is the supposed limit of what can sh can actually penetrate our skin and get into our bloodstream. So we were able to use this technology and take some of the peptides, not all of them, but take some of them, and put them into, we think, a better delivery method, which is a transdermal patch. Transdermal patches have been around for a long, long time. There's a lot of different medications that's that's used in that way. Unfortunately, as we get into our later in life and our last uh cares, you know, a lot of people as they get older have hard times, their veins are in a place that they can't be injected, they're not able to swallow. Transdermal, our skin is our biggest organ. It's probably the only way to get medication or any kind of relief or anything. So it's been used in a lot of different ways. We find, though, with the peptides, especially in some of the healing peptides and even going into other coenzymes and stuff, a slow drip of a transdermal patch on a 24-hour period has a much better effect than an injection or an IV that just floods the bloodstream and taxes the liver on and takes a long time for our liver enzymes to break down and get into the systemic system. So we started doing some really uh some amazing, amazing production. So right now we're producing peptide tablets, peptide catches. I think it's taking advantage of you know technology and understanding our human anatomy better. There's not a lot of human testing on any of the peptides, but I think testing that is out there, um, the testimonials that are out there and the people that have worked and used it, it's it's really powerful. And it's nice.

Carey Howe 32:02

I I believe in peptides 100%. For me, for this rat, it's worked out good, right? Yeah, only for testing in rats. Well, this rat loved it. So the uh and it's been great. And so for the pet people out there, would do you in the uh in the patches, what ones work the best? You'd mentioned like the recovery ones, like so. I'm assuming BPC and TB500.

Scott Rickett 32:25

BPC 157 and TB500 as recoveries are really great. Really good so that people are injecting or yeah, rats are injecting them to areas where they have the pain. So let's say you bloop your Achilles, your Achilles doesn't get a lot of blood flow. It's in a very particular place that if you inject that with, you know, a half a milliliter or milliliter of solution, that's gonna pool, it's gonna go all over the place. You're not gonna get any direct real effect from it. The idea of putting a transdermal patch in that area and having that consistent release of the medication into the tissue, and then that tissue converting it into systemic to get into your full bloodstream, we feel that it has a lot of benefits to it. When you get into deliveries, sorry, others like for me, one of my biggest ones that I'm really crazy on right now is NAD. NAD for sure, NAD for sure. You know, all of us have NAD in our body. Our NAD levels drop as we age. If you had no NAD in your in your body, you would die. It's it is a basically the cellular repair crew that build the serotonin and all the other NAD is a coenzyme. So if you have enzymes in your body, those are all the workers. It's like having workers without coenzymes, those workers have no tools. So the NAD is an amazing, amazing, you know, basically coenzyme that that will change your body's rebuilding and actual strength through on a mitochondrial level. What a lot of people do though is they either inject NAD or they do a drip of NAD. NAD as a molecule, again, is too big to go intercellular. So if you go and get a you know, injection of NAD, it's gonna go running around through your bloodstream. You're gonna have huge levels in your bloodstream. It's gonna heck the crap out of your liver, and after a while, your liver enzymes will break it down, corrupt it, dilute it, everything else, and finally get it into the mitochondrial tissue to help. It does have benefits. I think the probably the intervenous one has a little bit more benefits than just injecting. What we've done though, there's a precursor to NAD called NMN. And NMN, I won't I won't tell you what the name of it is.

Carey Howe 34:46

Nicotinamide, mononucleide, I can't do that.

Scott Rickett 34:51

I can butcher it, but it but uh that NMN is unbelievable. As a precursor, as soon as that gets into your bloodstream, and we put it on a patch, you put that patch on your stomach, like you would a GLP1, like you would an insulin, you put it on your stomach. I wear that patch for 24 hours. NMN converts in every single cell, trillions of cells in our body to NAD in the cell itself on a molecular level. When you take it and you can go get a normal blood test, there's ones that they sell over the counter, you can have done, see where your NAD levels are. If you're over 30, your NAD levels are over. If you're over 50, your NAD levels are way down. So it took me three weeks of wearing the patch before I actually got my NAD levels up to where they should be. Now I only wear it three days a week because I was wearing them seven days a week after I got my levels up, and I just like I wasn't sleeping. They got a lot of energy, you know. God, it's like it's crazy. So what it does is is you're never gonna, you know, go back to being 20, but what it does is is our DNA is being being bombarded by environmental stuff all the time and rebuilding. So it's always fighting and rebuilding. When sometimes as we age, when those, you know, the DNA in your nose and the DNA in your toes, the exact same DNA, the only difference is there's little switches in it. And if those little switches, when it gets reproduced, aren't in line and they don't line up perfectly, we call it aging. Basically, our DNA starts to age because it's not getting reproduced in its perfect form. And as we get older and older and older, it ages more and more. Our skin drags, our skin falls, our hair pulls out, hair is great. All this stuff happens, and it's a lot of it is because of our cellular energy, and our cellular rebuilding is not getting built right back properly. When you take NAD and you get your NAD levels to its proper level, now the serotonin and the cellular rebuilding crew is at its max. You can get yourself back to having an inner cellular body of a 20-year-old. So that way you are fighting disease, you're fighting recovery, you are fighting the elements that we have from the poisons in our food and poisons in our environment and any other poisons we decide to ingest that our body has to break down. You now have a little bit more energy and strength for it. So that one's a game changer. And having it in a slow drip patch where my levels get up and they stay, and it's on a every cell, trillions of cells in your body are converting that to the NAD that they need to get those workers out there and rebuilding your cells in the proper generation. So that one to me is probably the biggest game changer that I personally myself noticed. And it's not a peptide, have to be only used on rats, it's a coenzyme, and it's really pretty easy to get.

Carey Howe 37:48

You can get so I think that like that's really cool because I think that even the peptide people who've been doing peptides a long, long time and are experiencing, if you can get one less shot in the morning, you're gonna do it. So if you can use the patch for NAD and BBC, hey, there's two less shots, right? And are there any other like mitochondrial ones that does MOTC work? Does hypomorin work? Like uh Impomorlin works.

Scott Rickett 38:13

This one we're gonna be doing. The the cool thing about impamoralin, we actually used it in some of our original testing of the patch, because it's one thing, all right. So peptides are extremely uh volatile. They're they're they're not a stable element. Most peptides should be only kept in a cryogenic format of freezing. They they really are the most unstable. Any sunlight, any air, any moisture at all will degradate them immediately. So getting them into a patch was a real pain in the ass to begin with because you couldn't get it exposed to water. You can't get exposed to air or any other elements because they'll dissipate. So that's one issue. And we were able to use a really extremely unique adhesive that we were able to encapsulate them in this adhesive that kept them safe. And then our body heat actually uh opens the adhesive and then allows the uh the actor to penetrate, and then we use incipients and other ways to help it get into the skin. But the first test we had to do was okay, we got this stuff in a patch. Is it getting out of the patch? Is it getting into our system? And impamorin' is great because you can do uh you know blood tests and human growth hormones, very easy to detect in the blood. And so impamorlin. Yeah, impomorin was one of the first ones we did. We haven't released that yet. Right now, the first four that we're releasing are the BPC157, the TB500. We're doing them in one milligram doses, much like they are in done in injection-wise. The NAD, which is not even a peptide, but the NAD in a 40 milligram 24-hour patch, that is unbelievable. And then the one that I'm also really pretty pretty giddy about right now is the GKCU copper. Everybody loves that. Everyone loves GKCU copper unless you really understand. So our body takes six months of increased upload of GKU copper to start expanding your own personal collagen manufacturing in your body. But it takes six months of that increased amount to do it. Anyone that's in cre that's injected copper knows it burns. Yes, the lady's gonna have to inject that in her belly for six months. I'm not a big fan of needles to begin with. I'm not a big fan of anyone that doesn't have proper medical training, using them, mixing them, you know, hearing these nightmare stories of people getting hepsi and having all these like scar tissues and bumps and stuff from injecting themselves wrong. That's a nightmare, man. I'd hate to see anyone have to go through that. So the idea that you can take that copper patch, slap it on your forehead at night when you go to sleep, sleep, it's a four-hour release. So within four to six hours of sleep, you can take it off in the morning. Um, what I do, if I don't get my four to six hours of sleep, I take the exact patch off and stick it on my inside of my arm just to make it very easy. I get the rest of it into my my bloodstream because copper, as we know, has unbelievable uh other benefits for all of our tissues, our joints and our our um active tissues and and a lot of other things as well. Circulation, all kinds of things, right? All kinds of things. It's really, really important. So so yes, as we've gotten older, taking this quest for knowledge that's never ended to make you know ourselves better, make people around us better. That's that's something that's been a real yeah, a real goal for me. These peptides to more and more people I talk to about it, it's just amazing that they don't know about it, you know. And a lot of people have never heard of it.

Carey Howe 41:42

Uh but now people are gonna wonder, like, where can they get it, right? And so I know that you don't really have a brand that you sell, you're making these peptides for other brands that are then carrying your manufacturing, right?

Scott Rickett 41:57

So we we have the basically we've created and and developed the technology, so we just white label it. I'm not I'm busy with the Magella brand right now with the wine. We do some some white label with my wine. So the goal with the well, with the wine we have our brand, but I'm able to make my wine without a label and sell it to other brands. I have a company in Virginia that has a big hemp farm and they sell my wine. I have to go maybe down in in the Midwest, it's uh American Indian that sells to the Indian reservation. So we have different white label programs where we make the wine, my same wine, and then just put it on. So with the peptides, I'm doing it for a big company right now that we're producing a lot of this for, but we're white labeling it and offering it out to other companies. And I think the patch technology has a lot of benefits. I think it will hit the female clientele that is now becoming more aware of what peptides can do and the healing benefits of them. People that are dealing with the GLP ones and weight loss is great, but there's a ton of other peptides that that will give you the weight loss. The NAD, NMN, NAD, if you take that on a consistent basis and you get your body's level up to that, your body starts really processing and burning, you know, through stuff on a on a cellular level that like you do with my, you know, like you say, man, when I was a kid, I could eat anything. I never got fat, right? Well, that's how I feel now. I eat like a freaking horse. My girl's like, What where is that all going? You know, and I don't have a six pack, but I'm pretty close to a six-pack at my age. And I do believe, I feel in a lot of ways that there's that that kind of, yeah, you fall off that edge, you get older, oh man, my body hurts too much, I don't want to go work out, or people get a little bit of a belly, or whatever else. You know, when you're able to get your body actually working and and check like that, and you work out on a daily basis, you eat decently, you try to get some sleep. Um, these just kind of take you another level up. They notch it up, you know.

Carey Howe 43:57

All right, cool. So, what I will do is I'll put a link. to you know on the on you know in the text of this podcast for if there are any peptide brands or out there or listening and they wanted to to get peptides made in a batch from you for their own label or whatever we'll make sure that happens. And tell me a little bit so I'm really interested because you know I I watch your posts and stuff and I I notice you play a lot of pickleball. And so I'm interested in this because we play paddle here. It's a little different. But um but a lot of my friends back home where you know in Southern California where you are they're all telling me about pickleball. It's a great thing and now you've developed this clothing brand and you know the the graphics look pretty good the label looks pretty good and you know you're obviously a fairly good marketer or you wouldn't be where you are. And so tell me a little bit about pickleball and your love for pickleball and how that works into the wellness and health for you.

Scott Rickett 44:51

You know it's like I I think being a musician you never grow up. I think as a musician we're always a big kid because we're playing you know as an adult how often do we get to play? What do you get to do to go play? I mean if you're lucky enough like you or like I am to live here on the on the edge of the continent and you can go run out in the water and play in the water for an hour in the morning it's wonderful. But you know I I love to play golf to get out and play golf for four hours when you're busy and running businesses and you know it's it's a diff more difficult you know better in the summer because you got longer days tougher in the winter. So I've always tried to find other things to play and still be a kid because that is my I'm a kid at heart. I enjoy having fun and I want to play like I'm a kid at heart. So I did the and as we know you know we we used to train over at the UC gym. I I did Muay Thai forever and I I used to train with Thomas Jones who was the six time world champion and unfortunately as you get older that type of more intense for me I I'm pretty ADD I have a lot of energy so at the end of the day it's really been great always for me to find something to get that ah that release out. And for hitting something is like my way to do it you know go hit the heavy bag get in the ring with somebody get popped in the face two or three times and go ah you get that that that just like rad rad energy out of your body and you walk out of the you know the gym after getting beat up and beating someone up and you're sore and you're sweaty and I feel great. You know so I did that for my knee out breaking my nose five times getting enough elbows and the head and stuff that I get scars that won't go away. I said you know maybe I'm getting a little too old for this and for fighting in the gym. Yeah the UFC and you know what it's like you go in there and you know every Wednesday night at the UFC gym you get to go fight with somebody but there's all these 20 year old kids that want to come in and they think they're freaking you know Connor or Gregor you know I just want to get a workout these kids want to kill me. You end up killing fighting at it half the time. So I just said you know I gotta find something that's a little less destructive on my body and I had a friend that said hey come play pickleball and geez sure shit hitting that snot out of that little green ball as hard as you can at people and it's like you know I used to have a ping pong table at our at a our uh Soul Surfer records at our uh at our studio there with all the different bands of people coming we used to have the most fierce ping pong battles you know that was our our release you play in the studio for a while you get all frustrated and you go out and play ping pong and kind of clears love ping pong yeah so it to me uh pickleball was like ping pong on steroids and then it just was more convenient than any other thing. There's a bunch of open play courts around here they got lights they're open until 10 o'clock at night I can go just take my paddle down at 8 o'clock at night if I'm done working go run down the street throw my paddle down I get on the court with three people I may have never met or known and and get to play and you you learn and meet some different people in the you know in the area that play you find some groups that are at your level and it's been really fun. I I've got uh I have to say I I I've got addicted to it because it's something that it's it's not as radical as getting out and fighting. It's not probably as intense as as surfing at the pier in the morning you know I would say if I get out and surf in the morning and I don't drown I don't get eaten by a shark and I don't have to fight some skinhead the rest of the day is going to be easy.

Carey Howe 48:10

Yeah I jump in the I jump in the ice bath and my my methodology behind that is that if I can get myself into this thing for five minutes right now everything I do all day is going to be a lot easier than this right yeah that's funny you know you're not alone with the pickleball right because one of the places I used to live in Southern California is a tennis club Los Capalleros had like about 50 courts or whatever.

Scott Rickett 48:37

Yeah it's all pickleball now 58 courts right now I just played there the other night it's great man crazy right so I mean it's taking over like uh and from 15 in the morning until 10 o'clock at night those 58 courts are full you know at lost cap low scap at at Golden West College there's you know 50 some courts full at at uh Westminster High School you know courts full there's there's they said there's 14000 pickleball courts that have been built this year in the United States. So it's growing where it's growing in Asia and other places is unbelievable. And so I was just like all other things being being that kind of serial entrepreneur I get out there and play and I see this young crowd of kids out there playing I kind of see and I hear from a lot of the older people that have been playing for a while that this sport is evolving, it's changing it's not what it was and so I just kind of said geez I think there's things that can be better. And so um the first thing we started making was a better ball. I hate the balls you can't see it at night doesn't have really great ergonomics and design so I've got a couple buddies who one works at SpaceX the other works for another aerospace he's an aerospace physicist and so I had them help me redesign the pickleball we made a better pickleball we beveled a hole it's got less drag it's got better aerodynamics it has less what's called wake and it's spinning and turning so it actually and then we made the inside of it a brighter color so the negative space of the holes reflects the light so you can see it at night. Just little tweaks to do a thing. Yeah to make it better. So so yeah I started a brand called body bag pickleball you play pickleball and you hit somebody with the ball it's called a body bag it's a way it's kind of like a dirty way to get a point. So I thought it was a little edgier of a brand name. Yeah it's been fun it's just something as a little side project and and having some really unbelievably smart friends around me that that are you know you you get a bunch of physicists and and astro and aeronautic air aeronautic engineers together and and you throw some really cool challenges at them it's unbelievable what these minds will come up with yeah so it's good physical and and I mean you kind of explain something it's pretty good socially too I imagine right so you get out there you have fun you meet new people and being social is part of wellness you know it's one of the anything any of the job when I'm up in Napa sourcing wine and stuff like that I I have my paddle on my shoes and I I go walk on the you're ready to paddle huh? Yeah yeah you know it doesn't if you don't in Tokyo you can play underneath the freaking Tokyo tower. I mean there it's everywhere I don't care where you go in the world right now people are playing pitfall paddle's taken off paddle has a little bit more limitations just because of the court you know yeah there's just not ability to have local open play courts of paddle you yeah no it's a very very different a lot the courts are a lot yeah a lot different right I get that it's kind of like you now you carry a bag of the BPC patches with you to the court you know like I'm sure it's like there's a lot of industries in pickles a lot of back and side and forth and what funny there's there's a crazy crossover of all of it. I can't tell you I I obviously I bring my little bella flyers everywhere I go because I'm always promoting I'm always marketing my brand but every time I play pickleball you know people hey what do you do what do you do I'm like hey I make wine I make zero alcohol wine CB dye boom so yeah I I'm always promoting I'm always marketing I found you know gyms that now are carrying my wine and doing you know some Mondays and all this other stuff with zero alcohol wine at the gym to you never know you never know I had faster people come to us from playing with them in pickleball. So the world is is changing and it's more difficult I think to find those true social type of situations where you can't walk out and you know I've got a 19 year old kid and a and a and a 50 year old you know lady that I'm playing along with that I've never met and don't know nothing about but you know you see them there three nights a week and next thing you know you know their names you know where they live you know who they you know friends with and and yeah you you you create like a social kind of environment. Yeah super cool. I don't think I've seen that in any other sport so so it's just a thing. But it all kind of crosses over. The people that are playing pickleball yeah they are probably a little bit more health and wellness conscious. So the the wine and a and a a better way to relax and and to celebrate is perfect. And and if they are you know dealing with injuries or dealing with trying to get themselves better the patches and tablets that we're making are uh are another whole option people kind of discard tablets in in peptides but there's quite a few that work really well. There's some that the the internal you know first pass digestive is going to destroy destroying others there's great I mean BPC 157 is made from gastric enzymes. That's where it's actually derived from so the tablets work really well when you get it into your system. Now if I've got a you know gout in my big toe and I'm trying to take BPC 157 to deal with the gout in my big toe and I'm just taking tablets, yeah it's probably going to take a lot of it and some time before it really gets systemic through my own system but our gut bacteria our gut lining and our stomach is the most important thing of our immune system and our our mood to everything else. So the vagan nerve connects your stomach to your brain and if your stomach's not happy it's going to tell your brain and your brain's not going to be happy you know one drink of alcohol destroys the very important bacteria in the lining of our gut that is part of what processes and deals with everything that comes in our system. So taking a BPC 157 tablet people are like believe it or not is phenomenal for your body. Your digestive system is your immune system.

Carey Howe 54:31

It is almost you know the main we just did a podcast with a biodentist right and he was explaining to us you know how the gut is you know like the root of all these these problems but what leads to the gut is your mouth and periodontal disease is sort of the root of all this and and what we do is we we brush with cold gate and all these things that are fluoride and all this that is destroying your microbiome your teeth and gums are getting clean and whatnot but it's destroying your microbiome which opens up all these other things which is how everything's connected right your your mouth is connected to the gut which is connected to the brain which is connected to the body right and so everything's connected.

Scott Rickett 55:12

Yep and the more we realize the certain small little things that can make such a big difference you know like I said I wish maybe we were taught some of this when we were kids but I don't think we were properly really informed and really educated you know and now as you get it for me as I surround myself with people that are really true true experts that spent their life in certain categories and doing certain things that know more than anyone you know I I'll never be able to get to the point like my friend Tony is a particle physicist. He's one of the smartest people on this planet you know but but you know he has a a lane he knows certain things in in constructing and reconstructing elements that that you know beyond most people's understanding. So you surround yourself with people like that and you learn what our body really is is dealing with every day from environment and all these other stresses and everything else to put yourself through. So adding more crap to it to make it harder for our body to deal with it is is probably something that I've continued to you know do what I can to cut out. And finding ways to make my body run better is something that I continue to just always learn and and look for that next what's next? What's going to be the next thing that's gonna get me better. I don't like steroids I don't like things that are that are pushing beyond you know our body naturally can do all the work it's the most incredible machine in the world and but you know our supplements people can't expect it to happen overnight. Think of like our body only makes one vitamin our body will make vitamin D3 from sunlight converts vitamin from sunlight our body naturally converts it to vitamin D3 one of the most important vitamins for our body by far by by beyond vitamin C, by the B's, D's, any of the vitamin D3 is so important. And our Neanderthal DNA is used to having 14 hours of sunlight daily that's what we were programmed for. Now we have you know ambient light from our from our office and our computer and stuff like that. So none of us are getting enough natural sunlight in our body we cover ourselves up we use all these poisonous sunscreens you know yada yada yada so most people that are smart take vitamin D3. I don't care who you are and what you're doing if you're a fisherman out in the water in your shorts every single day you're not getting enough vitamin Dr you could be taking vitamin D3 every day you're probably not going to notice a physical oh I feel better type thing but it will fight off on your immune system like nothing else. It will help really strengthen your immune system. It helps with a you know a lot of the other elements in our digestion and everything else but it's not a like man I took my vitamin D3 I'm rocking out of my world and a lot of the peptides are like that. And I think sometimes people get a little um they they think it's going to be the overnight fix. And for the GLP ones for a lot of the lazy people that don't want to work out and don't want to change their diets and stuff it is for them but it's extreme. GLP ones are morbidly obese people that's an extreme variation to change the way your body's processing food you know there's other ones that are great testafensin, 5 amino, they burn fat and work with the the way it it dissolves and deals with cholesterol without attacking lean muscle, without attacking your bone marrow. So there's a lot of other variables out there and I just tell people you know do your education take a look at what's information's out there. The only real clinical human studies have been done in Europe actually Russia has been doing peptides for a long time. A long time yeah their athletes were doing it and they you know finally got caught by wada but it wasn't until you know almost what 2004 or 2005 that Russia had been doing it for 30 some years that they've been pumping their their athletes with peptides. So we found a place in the Czech Republic that we were doing our first testing from that actually had true methods and standards for all these peptides for years they'd been doing it. But these standards that are out there they never needed FDA approval they are you know and and I guarantee there's so many other things that it that they've been doing. Who knows what what they've been getting away with. But the the biggest problem I see right now with peptides is that it it is a little bit of a wild west. There's not a lot of real testing being done. There's more labs coming on board now. RFK has opened up the door for people to realize that it's gonna eventually become something that can be uh brought into a pharmaceutical facility but they're naturally occurring compounds that shouldn't be able to be patented how little patented Wagobi in those I I I'm I'm you know again if you pay the FDA enough money they'll do whatever you want they're not out to protect us our food supply poison most of the drugs from the the crap that's out there from all these opioids and stuff like that is straight poison that's killing people and and they just the FDA approves white bread and white bread's got more poison than nobody buys that anymore.

Carey Howe 1:00:24

You know it's like it's kind of a joke you know even in the peptide people they laugh at all the people saying oh if it's not FDA testing it's like look that's not the difference right the uh the FDA doesn't mean squat to most people anymore.

Scott Rickett 1:00:38

I'll tell you well there's FDA food and there's FDA pharma working in a pharma facility and understanding the level of FDA pharma regulations and when things are done at a regulated level is really important. I think having an FDA in the U.S. is wonderful. The owner of the facility in Irvine was was brilliant over the time it takes almost four years sometimes for a drug to go from start to actually FDA approval and being used. So we manufacture created developed the drugs in the lab there and then go into production on them. But over that time from the you know millions of dollars it's spent in that development you have to wait four years. It's like what else can we do with all this equipment and all this stuff so he started a supplement company and started making supplements there only selling them to Asia because again in in Taiwan and Japan and in South Korea they don't want to buy Indian supplements they don't want to buy Chinese supplements so he makes it in an FDA regulated facility but we don't sell a single piece in the United States. So nothing's FDA certified or FDA overseen because it doesn't get sold in the United States it only gets but the facility that is made in is run in an FDA pharma level of operation and that is what they want in a foreign you know setup because they know they want to know that these procedures are put in place.

Carey Howe 1:01:55

And I think that's the set of procedures and cleanliness and standards. I mean obviously that's good for any industry no matter what you do right yeah I get that part.

Scott Rickett 1:02:04

But that trust level has certainly gone from the guys who brought you the opioid crisis you know nobody's really like you know yeah well I don't think anyone's really happy I mean look at all right so Eli Lilly um let's look at some of these cut these drug companies how long they've been around 100 years some of them show me one disease that they cure one nothing no drug company is out there to cure a disease. A drug company only makes medication that mask the effects from it. And that's why they continue to have to be able to sell it to you because now they're masking the effects without treating the cause or the root problem. And that's been the this disillusion that everyone's thought that oh these drug companies I'm I've got to take my statins or I'm gonna die or you know no you can take statins all day it doesn't give you any more mortality level okay it brings this number that they tell you that's down for your cholesterol but you know we need cholesterol believe it or not for our body. So there's a bunch of this misinformation that's been out for so long and it's really sad. And I think as we get a little older as we take the time to do our own research and as we get around more educated people that are maybe you know truly truly understand what what we need then you start making those decisions to eat better and to cut you know crap out of your life you know I remember you know years ago people saying oh you know sugar white death you know it's like yeah sugar is freaking hard my body's not supposed to deal with that break that down but then they'd say oh salt you can't eat salt salt's bad food guess what we can't live without salt every single electron in our body that moves or changes or does anything in our body needs salt to work and move. Salt's one of the most important elements we take in without salt you will die. You know and back in the Roman days the soldiers were paid in salt because they then would get strong they could actually retain and they had their body strength to them because they had salt the poor they would starve to death and they would die because they didn't have salt. The word salary is actually a uh I I'm not sure if it's Greek or if it's if it's I I think it's the Greek word salary is is how you say salt basically that's how they paid the wrong soldiers. So you know these misnomers oh you can't eat salt it's bevery no salt's really important for you.

Carey Howe 1:04:19

Now taking that's another good thing about surfing now we're like bathing in saline solution and getting sunlight you know they'll D3 and saline and like yeah they didn't want us to do that in COVID you know it's like you know the whole thing with fluoride that one blows my mind.

Scott Rickett 1:04:34

Fluoride's in our supposedly to help the enamel of our teeth fluoride if you look at fluoride as an element why because it's a poison. They put it in the water it poisons you take a hot shower at night with that much fluoride in it your skin opens up in that heat fluoride's molecular size is small enough to penetrate not only the dermis but the epidermis and get into your full bloodstream just taking a shower brushing your teeth swallow your toothpaste screw that your freaking sublinguals absorb everything right into your bloodstream. So why they're poisoning us with fluoride constantly I have no idea but it's part of those like elements that our body has to fight in every single day to to try to stay healthy you know yeah they make an oxygen based uh toothpaste now and oxygen obviously uh you know that bacteria cannot grow in an oxygen environment and so if you're using that your your periodontal disease goes away and in turn the good bacteria in your in your gut can feed off of oxygen right and so these new oxygen based toothpaste you'll see a lot more of them coming out in the near field there's a lot of different options people are starting to wake up to it but then you know do your research because this it it it is interesting how many companies and how much food and how many other products that you think are healthy out there that are, you know, pushed to be healthy, but if you do your research and see what kind of preservatives and what kind of additives and kinds of other crap that's in it, it's really uh it's eye-opening.

Carey Howe 1:06:10

You know, where you mean even the term organic has lost its sizzle, you know what I mean? Because people are like, yeah, that doesn't mean you're not getting glycophate, the spray that they put on.

Scott Rickett 1:06:20

Glycophate's been put on everything and our, you know, more than anything else, unfortunately, our our food system continues to be corrupted and continues to be controlled. What worries me is is is the whole seedless thing. You know, I I gosh, that's right, yeah, I have my own little garden here. You know, I live in the beach, a little beach bungalow, I have hardly any room, but I've got 30 pots out in the backyard and I grow all kinds of stuff. I grow my own sweet potatoes, I grow my own corn, I grow my own beans, I've got pineapples and strawberries and blueberries and raspberries, you know, and all my herbs and stuff like that. And I grow it here in my yard because our food supply has been super terrible. Super seed, you know, and all these all of a sudden all right seedless watermelons, seedless grapes, seedless oranges. What are you gonna use to replant these? We're only using clones, genetically modified clones now. So no bro, that's like a big mistake. That's like and then the world going to all this lab grown, like lab grown cocoa is all the chocolate companies no longer using natural cocoa. They're going lab grown cocoa. It's awesome. I mean it's it's really really sad. But our fruits, our vegetables, the idea that they've corrupted it and and are they make it that at a certain point you don't have ability to grow your own and they control it. And these genetically modified variations of food have yes quicker growing times. And now they're doing things where they're basically picking fruits and vegetables so early that they have no maturing on the vine. So they're not connected to the ground. So that maturing in the final like take bananas for example bananas are picked eight to ten weeks early sometimes. And they're put in containers and they're gassed. The gas makes them ripen from the outside and change color. So all of a sudden you get these beautiful green bananas at the store that have been you know on the water for a month or whatever else but in there in this perfect shape. But they were picked before they ever had a chance to actually ripen from the vine and have any nutrients and any of the tastes and flavors and all the stuff that's actually connected to the ground in them. They put in containers they're gassed and by the time it gets to your grocery store it starts to change. But that banana has nothing in it. And guess what? Dole messed up so bad that we only have one genetic banana out there anymore. There's no other genes and no other banana types out there. They'd ruined and destroyed that whole comp that whole isn't that crazy. Yeah it's not you know it's on and on and on and now you've got eminent Mars that's doing genetic changes to the cocoa trees in nature not in a lab not in a controlled environment but they're doing it in nature where these things are then pollinating other trees with these genetic changes that they made to that's gonna destroy and change the cocoa in Ghana and all these other places that they're doing this. So our food supply continues corrupted it continues to get food and water is the next thing that that people are really going to wake up to well then the last one well you know I grew up as a kid in New Hampshire and and we we had a well you know we'd drink the water coming out the rocks and the spring water and stuff like that. So I never dreamed in a million years as a kid to buy bottled water. That was like I came out I remember being in college in Florida going bottle water why who's gonna buy bottle water we got the garbage you know it comes out of the stream we just pump it out of the ground what are you talking about? But you know sure as shit bottled water is bigger than ever. So I had a thing years ago I did a little spoof of we we had a uh a compressor for doing uh tanks for uh for um scuba diving and so we were gonna take that around and collect air in all the different places and start uh saving and collecting air because in the future the same way our water everything else can be destroyed eventually our air will be destroyed you know and now I'll have a vintage you know 2026 uh Sierra Air or uh and you can sell these tanks to air you know in the you know a hundred years from now from all these different areas of vintage air back back when you could actually breathe the air you know um right on Scott it's been a super good conversation I I mean I could go on for hours with you sorry a lot of similarities and really cool I mean one of the things I've always you know admired about you through the years is that you always seem to pick industries and you're having fun doing it doesn't seem like you're working a day in your life and you're doing well and I always love that it's really good to see you now in this part of your life and doing the same stuff and playing have pickleball having fun doing things you love you're obviously very uh knowledgeable and interested in all the things you do and that brings a good product which is good for all of us and uh just stoked to talk to you today. Same here well same here I'm happy to see you on this mission as well you know I think creative people from from the same kind of cloth that we're torn from will continue to want to create and make I I I love writing songs I love building brands I love you know making bands and brands and products and ideas trying to make stuff that makes the world a better place you know that's that's what it's all about you know make it make it a better place and and go out there and follow your dreams you know it's yeah uh I love what I do I can't tell you every day is wonderful you know small businesses are a lot of freaking a lot about putting out fires you know but and I you know I'm I work 16 hours sometimes you know eighteen hours a day sometimes and you know you gotta put the time and work in but it is a passion the music has always been a passion and you know you would put so many hours in beyond what anyone else even knew for the music you know and that couple minutes on stage has nothing to do with the thousands of hours in the bedroom and the hundreds of hours of rehearsal and the you know the time and work and everything else it does to just to give them that couple minutes. So I think if you have that kind of work ethic you have that kind of entrepreneurial spirit then you know get out there and find something that you really think you can be better or that that that you want better and make it better and and take it to the world you know super cool.

Carey Howe 1:12:24

So if there's anybody listening that was moved by some of the topics Scott and I were talking about today I'm gonna put the links for your products and whatnot in the text.

Ana Howe 1:12:36

There you go let's see it yeah and you know zero alcohol wines champagnes cbd wines just in all very very nice how to healthy bed so I'll put those thanks in there again super nice talking to you Scott um we'll chat some more off camera and and off you know I got so much to talk to you about cool thanks for thanks for doing this today and we'll talk in the future sound good enjoy lovely costa rica man right thanks for spending time with us today if this episode sparked something for you be sure to subscribe so you don't miss what's next share the show with someone who cares about living well and building a longer more vibrant life follow us on social media for more conversations insights and tools to support your health and vitality until next time live with intention stay curious and design your vitality